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03-04-2006 09:04 PM
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My son is in first grade moderate to severe class right now. This fall my dh and I are thinking about placing him in a mild to moderate class. I was wondering where did you placed your child and how did you decide?
thanks in advance!
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03-04-2006 09:11 PM
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Well, my daughter with DS is not in school yet, but I have dealt with special ed in four districts in three states and I have never heard classes described as mild-moderate or moderate-severe. What does this mean?
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03-04-2006 09:28 PM
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it just means that mild to moderate they get less help and they are more capable of being independent vs moderate to severe is that less children in the classroom and more help from the t.a.s I think??

[Edited by Rasbora on 03-04-2006 at 09:34 PM]
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03-04-2006 11:12 PM
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The districts we have dealt with only have inclusion or no inclusion.
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03-05-2006 12:28 AM
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You get to choose that's great. I would choose the class where children get the most help, I would do this with any child not just DS children. My daughter Tayla is in a class of 29 and she has extra tutoring not through school as she doesn’t fit into that group but still benefits from it.
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Here they also have the varying levels.

Callum is just about to turn 3 and about to start his school experience.

In our district they have mainstreamed inclusion classes, and then 3 special ed classes (for preschool) that vary from mild to severe needs. I am hoping that Callum will be in the mainstreamed class as he's been in a private school since he was 3 months old that is fully inclusive and he does great.
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03-05-2006 06:01 PM
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Our school has 4 classrooms: 2 SPI (severe/profoundly impaired) one is grades k-2 and the other grades 3-5. Then they have 2 MMI (mild/moderately impaired) classrooms that are also k-2 and 3-5.

My daugthter is in 3rd grade and in the MMI room with 9 other students, then mainstreamed for all of her specialists (art, music, phy.ed. etc.) I LOVE THIS PROGRAM! With the number of students she in her class, her core subjects (math, reading, etc) are broken down into groups of 3-5 students who are at the same level she is. It really is nice to have the small group. The other students are mainstreamed for different amounts of time depending upon their needs, and there are other students who come in for just one subject they may need extra help on, etc. I never thought I would put my daughter in such a program, but really....I'm loving it.


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03-05-2006 07:21 PM
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My son is mainstreamed in regular kindergarten. Here we don't have classifications of mild, moderate or severe, they just have ST, OT and PT when needed and my son has an aide that works one on one with him on a daily basis.
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03-05-2006 07:59 PM
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I guess it varies from state to state...
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03-06-2006 10:41 AM
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It not only varies from state to state, but from district to district! Our previous district had no such programs, but they also didn't have the number of students to make a program like this one possible.

Our district has magnet schools, where you can send students to another building in the district for various types of programs. Many of the students are bussed into this program (which is only 3 miles from our house, while our neighborhood school is about 1.5 miles) At first I was very resistant to the idea. But I had seen how full-time mainstreaming doesn't always work past 1st grade or so. Angela was fully included in preschool-1st grade, and did great. But there is a HUGE jump in academics in 2nd grade here, and she was just not able to do it. Even sitting through a 2nd grade science discussion about the solar system was far too much for her. But at the time we were in another district and in our building (I worked in the same building) she was the only student with significant needs other than just learning disabilities or Title I services.

So anyway, when we moved here she was on homebound services due to her medical issues at the time. The last 6 weeks of last year she went back only 1/2 days. For 3 months I had felt the district pushing the issue of sending her to the magnet school, which made me even more determined to send her to the neighborhood school instead. Finally I did a "day in the life of Angela" so I could see what her day would be like at school. OMG....I was bored to death and I'm an adult. I couldn't imagine putting her in there. Then, at the advice of the ST who I really liked, we visited the "other school". WOW! When we got there, the kids were sitting down having a group OT session. Angela walked in like she knew everyone, grabbed a chair and sat down, and announced, "Ok guys! Whatchya do'in?"

I have been thrilled to death with this program. There are small things I've had to correct, or ask of changes too. And last week I did see some things about her math program that REALLY need changing. But her staff is FANTASTIC and more than willing to work with me on whatever issue comes up. Maybe I'm lucky, I don't know. I just wish everyone's kid could get Angela's teachers. Her mainstream teacher is just as good, and Angela is included in everything that she can be. Sometimes she goes and it proves to be too frustrating for her, and she makes a quick exit.

Also, we weren't really given a "choice" about which room (MMI vs SPI ) to put her in. It's really based on the students functioning levels, etc. But the kids who are in the SPI rooms have MUCH more significant medical needs than Angela. Almost all are in wheelchairs, standers, etc, with little to no communication skills, traches, etc. I have no idea where the cognitive skills are, but I'm assuming pretty low.

Of the kids in Angela's class, I know 2 have Autism spectrum disorders, (both very verbal and very social) 1 has CP and some cognitive issues, 1 has Apraxia and is completely non-verbal but uses a dynovox, and a few more who's issues I'm not as familiar with. All the kids are ambulatory with the exception of one who uses a wheelchair when outside of the classroom. All function at or about the same level as Angela. I'd put her right about the middle of the class. But she's also the only 3rd grader, which makes her the youngest in the group. Next year 4 will move on, and new kids will be coming up from the younger room.

Our middle school is NOT set up the same way, and I'm already feeling nervous about how it will work. Only 2 more years...wow....


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03-06-2006 10:55 AM
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Hi there
I think its great like vonda says not to have our children classed as anything eg mild severe etc, because I know when our pead said Harrison was severe, I cried for about a week This set me back big time, and even though hes doing well at school I still cant get severe out of my head.
I feel that the paed/doctors we have here prefer to tell you the worst senario which I dont feel is always wright
I really prefer not to know, I know that this sounds maybe like Im sticking my head in the sand like an ostrich not
wanting to know but I just feel that Harrison being classed as severe has destoyed any hope Ive had
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03-06-2006 11:22 AM
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Thanks Leah for your detail response. Boy do I understand your fears about junior high
But for now our concern is that I don't want to place A.J. in a class where he is not challenged enough but at the same time I don't want him to be in a place where it is too hard for him either. I do have to say that I love his teachers right now and all the programs he is getting.
If you don't mind me asking, How is Angela's speech?

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