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03-13-2006 01:37 PM
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Payton was evaluated for EI services and was found to be developing normally at this point. Well, she is only 2 months old and hasn't had much chance to fall behind. Anyway, although they said she isn't in need of services yet, she still qualifies due to her diagnosis. So, we are going with PT twice a month. I said something to them about it eventually getting to be more and that I had seen that some of you have therapy like 5-6 times per WEEK, if not more. She told me that I will never see that with an EI program and those kids are probably in private therapy where they follow the medical model, rather than the family model. LOL...I hope I'm making sense here. So, that said, how often are your kids seen and is it a county type EI program or private..or both? I just thought that some of the kids were seen that often through an EI county program, and she says no...but I guess it could vary from state to state.
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03-13-2006 01:47 PM
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From EI, beginning at 8 weeks old (she was in NICU until 6 weeks), Angela received ST/OT/PT Special Ed. teacher EACH one hour per week. This was not private therapy, but EI through the school district.

Services DO vary from state to state, and from county to county. I know when I spoke in West VA last fall the parents there told me they didn't get alot for services through the school. If they wanted more they had to do it privately and hope their insurance picked it up. Incidently, in the summer months we do private therapy with Angela and she gets about the same amount of services.
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03-13-2006 01:49 PM
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At one point Callum had

Speech x 2 a week
PT x 2 a week
early childhood education x 1 a week
swimming x 1 a week

all provided through EI, this is in California.

It got to be a bit much but was only at this intesity for about 3 months (from 24-27 months)

He now does
Speech x 2 a week
swimming x 1 a week
Preschool program 5 days a week

we're taking a break from PT and working with him at home on stairs and jumping.

Up until he was 9 months old all we did was a once a week infant stimulation session.
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03-13-2006 01:59 PM
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Sam actually started services in the ISCU (born at 27 weeks)...he would get speech and PT for 15 minutes 2x a week. ONce he came home(at 3 months) he started getting PT,OT and Speech each for 1 hour 2x a week or as long as he would tolerate it. Sometimes he would fall asleep and the therapist would do stretches or teach me something to work on with him. Then at about 20 months DT was added once a week. At that point he had PT,OT and Speech 2x a week and DT 1x a week until he started school this January(age 3). Granted Sam was very delayed due to prematurity, lots of surgeries and hospital stays, infantile spasms and other medical issues. Currently he gets speech and PT 2x a week privately outside of school. At 3yrs Sam is closer to 12 months developmentally...so he qualifies for alot!
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03-13-2006 02:06 PM
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Eliza's is 10 months now and she has home teacher through EI once a week, PT (private) once a week, and Speech soon starting once a week (private). We just had her home teacher for the first eight months of her life and just added PT. When she has her one year evaluation i am hoping EI will pick up paying for the PT or what insurance doesn't cover. Same with speech but that is going to be a bigger battle (i am guessing based on this county).
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03-13-2006 02:10 PM
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DJ used to get PT twice a month too! He started weekly visit around 7 months, and we JUST added a special educator to his program. Our insurance will pay for additional PT, so I am looking into that - once that is set up, DJ will have:

PT through EI Wed
PT through insurance 1x a week (I think Monday)
Educator through EI Friday


We were told in about 6 months he would start speech, so there is another therapy to do (good thing Daddy stays home )
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03-13-2006 02:11 PM
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Kennedy receives all of her therapy through EI here in New York State. She receives:
PT 2 x week
OT 1 x week
ST 2 x week
Special Ed 1 x week.

I am curious to know what state you are in. We also changes counites here about 3 months ago but she continues to receive the same therapies she did in our prior county!

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03-13-2006 02:16 PM
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Darah's 19 months. We have a GREAT ECI program in San Antonio. There's actually 3 different programs depending on your school district, and we're in the best one by far!! My friends that live only a few miles from me don't get nearly the frequency Darah receives and they're kids are the same age as Darah.

Darah gets OT and PT 1x weekly through EI. She sees a dietician 1x monthly and we have a developmental specialist that comes 1x weekly. The dev spec kind of works with her on the broad scale...doing a little gross, fine, and speech all at once. Darah takes Speech through an outpatient therapy program because she's not drinking enough to sustain her...so we do that 2x weekly for feeding and 1x weekly for language skills. We're also beginning 2x weekly with a Neurodevelopmentalist. I can't explain a lot about that right now...we're starting on Thursday, so we'll see if it's overkill or beneficial!

We started after Darah was born in an outpatient therapy program instead of EI because they were more intensive and I liked that. I love EI now because it affords us to be home more and it incorporates every day things I have at home (using phone books, benches, ottoman, Darah's toys, ect), but I think you do lose some intensity (depending on the therapist), and you definately lose frequency! The important thing is that you're working with Payton throughout the week. I LOVE the Gross and Fine motor skills books for children with DS. They are so worth the investment. We're just now starting to use the communication one as well.
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03-13-2006 02:18 PM
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Beth ~ I'm in Virginia. I will have to ask my service coordinator about this...for instance what the average number of sessions would be. Also, I need to ask about a home teacher b/c I have heard other VA moms talk about having an infant educator in the beginning, which I'm assuming is the same as a home teacher. Not sure...LOL

I am also curious as to when your kids actually started falling behind as far as development goes? I just don't know what to expect. I mean, are there 2 month olds who are technically classified as being behind, or is it common for them to be classified as developing normally at that point. I know all kids are different but just curious to hear your specific story
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03-13-2006 02:22 PM
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Leah and I both live in Minnesota so our experiences are similar. We had our first meeting with the entire therapist team ( we had six people in hour house) who came to our home when Anthony was two weeks old. At four weeks old they did his evaluation and like you they did not see any delays yet. Right now they seam very amazed with his development so far and he is 10 weeks old now. Right now they told me that Anthony will receive one of therapist once a week and once a month a PT therapist will join his regular therapist. Anthony will see one therapist that covers all therapy areas (PT, OT and Speech) until he show some delays. Once he shows some delays then the therapist will come out to our home as much as four times a week to work on any one area of therapy. The school district that we are in likes to have only one therapist who comes out to the home so that they can really get to know the child and it is less confusing to the child. When Anthony turns three will go to a preschool program that will pick him up and take him home on the days he is scheduled. This preschool program is also based on need. If he had high needs he will go to the program five days a week but if he has less need he will go to the program 2 days a week.
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03-13-2006 02:50 PM
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Jaymes has received the following services since he was 6 months old:

EI - 2X per week
PT/OT/ST - 1x per week

Now we've added feeding therapy 1x per week that EI (state program) pays for. I was told about 6 months or so ago that if Jaymes came into the system now, there's no way the state would pay for that many services. We'd be lucky to receive PT/OT/ST twice a month if even that. Personally, I found that pretty sad but I guess understandable. The worst part is EI bills our insurance for as much as they can get and then they cover the rest - which is typical here. I'd have to get secondary insurance and not tell the state about it to get private therapy. That whole thing just irritates me, so we won't go into that.
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03-13-2006 02:54 PM
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I am in Michigan....

Elainah does not qualify for any services under the EI program except for a teacher twice a week for an hour. In our state, the diagnosis of DS does not provide an automatic eligibility to services-I know because I fought this all the way to the Michigan Department Of Education. When I found out she had to be evaluated to get services I initially declined the process entirely. I felt that having the diagnosis should have been a qualifier in its self, but the state does not see it this way.

She just barely qualified for EI because of a small communication delay. Her teacher often tells me that she does not anticipate her qualifying for services at three, when she starts preschool because of her abilities at this point. We are over a year from that marker so I am going to hope that she will qualify for something at three. Yet, even then the special education preschool program she may qualify is in our home school district, one I don’t allow any of my children to attend-it is outdated and they rate very low on the state scorecards. The preschool program is only 2.5 hours per day four days a week. So truthfully, unless I find an alternative-or get the permission of another district for Miss Laina to attend their program-she will likely not attend a special preschool even if she does qualify.

Our pediatrician will not refer her for private therapy because he just does not see a need for it.

Unfortunately, waiting until a child lags behind has never been too attractive an option to me, but I have convinced myself that if she does not qualify for services that this is ok. I guess that I do enjoy the freedom of not been required to have multiple sessions for these services. It is often a disruption of our day and Miss Laina does not care for the whole routine of things. Most of the time the so-called therapy we do get now is stuff we already employ in our home so I am not seeing any clear benefit from what the teacher does. The district does offer little play groups for EI, but they are held early in the morning and do not allow other siblings to come so this is not an option for my daughter.

I have only recently decided that going with out these services for now is acceptable-I was feeling quite sad that so many others on this forum, and many other friend's children, do get the additional help-and while I felt Miss E could likely benefit from some of the other services there is no point in being overwhelmed that she doesn't get them. I keep an extensive journal of her milestones and events in her life-maybe one day I will write a book about raising a DS infant without services.... I am all too familiar with this scenario.

I suppose that there are others in this position of not getting much in the way of services, but I really have not read about this on this forum.

[Edited by always_chaos on 03-13-2006 at 03:00 PM]
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03-13-2006 04:12 PM
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I live in RI and I don't know anyone in my state who is utilizing EI so I don't have any gauge on how much therapy we get. In RI there are 7 EI service centers and you choose where you go. I personally chose Hasbro. There is one closer to me, but since Daniel had a heart defect, I figured I would go with the one based at the hospital.

Daniel was born full term and had heart surgery at 8 weeks. Our entrance into EI was at 2 weeks for the enrollment paperwork and family visit etc....but actual therapy didn't start until after his heart surgery.

From the beginning, both the OT assesment at around 3 months and the PT assessment put Daniel at age appropriate (actually OT evaulated him at 4-6 months)...anway....at this point...every therapist tells us Daniel is doing fantastic...he has continued to make steady progress. Now my personal feeling is...the progress is slowing down....but according to EI...he is doing great.

So, Daniel is 9 months and we receive PT 2x per month for 1 hour. OT 1x per month (it will go to 2 next month) and an EI Educator 1x per month. I also have a parent consultant who helps with everything and she comes as needed...for me it has been once a month. ST hasn't started, they start at a year old and Daniel is already on the list....so that will be nice to start speech.

I have been struggling with idea of us getting private therapy..and as a matter of fact...on my last PT visit..I was going to ask for more therapy.....but all they did was rave over Daniel and say how wonderful he is doing, how they can't believe his progress so I couldn't work it into the conversation without sounding off the wall. So...for now I am going to trust that Daniel is where he should be. However, I know we aren't supposed to compare...but Daniel is NO WHERE close to where my daughter was at this age.....however, that 'typical' range is so wide, it is really hard to compare even if you wanted to.

I have been VERY pleased with my EI services. All his therapist I feel genuinely care about him and everyone has been very supportive of me as well. We found out about Ds at birth...so those first few months awaiting surgery and dealing with the diagnosis were difficult...and our EI team really supported us.



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03-13-2006 04:21 PM
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We have 8 times a week (2 of each of OT, PT, ST and Special Ed) plus two mornings a week of an integrated Mommy and Me program with a special ed teacher and a social worker facilitator. This is all through EI. I also just had a physiatrist eval through EI and tomorrow we are getting SMOs (splints for the feet) all through EI. They can look to our private insurance, but since I was a county employee and have insurance through the county, in our case it's just a question of which department of the county pays for it all. We pay for none of it.
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03-13-2006 10:35 PM
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Alexis PT is once a week.
That is all she has right at this time they did an eval for OT and Speech and said she doesnt need OT or Speech but will re eval for speech at a year old. They said she is very strong and eats good and is a talker so they feel she only need PT at this time.
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03-14-2006 12:05 PM
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When Megan was 2 months old she started w/
1x a week of PT
1x a week of special instruction

When she was 18 months old they up'ed her to
1x a week of PT
1 x a week of special instruction
1x a week of ST

At her 2 year Eval, I requested another day of SI, PT and OT, so now she receives:
2x a week of PT
2x a week of SI
1x a week of OT
1x a week of ST
So 6 hours a week and it is all through EI...NO PRIVATE.

We will scale all back when I am home and Megan starts walking....hopefully soon sice it is a bit much for her.
But hopefully soon we will just be to 1 session for each.




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Zack has been in therapy at home since he was 3 months old. While in the hospital he rec. ST 1X a day.

Now:

PT 1X a week
ST 2X a week
OT 1X a week

It is all through EI
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Originally posted by lilpayton

I am also curious as to when your kids actually started falling behind as far as development goes? I just don't know what to expect. I mean, are there 2 month olds who are technically classified as being behind, or is it common for them to be classified as developing normally at that point. I know all kids are different but just curious to hear your specific story

From a developmental standpoint, Emma was behind from the start. Her EI visits were once a week. There were various therapies OT, PT, and speech that varied from once every week to every other week - it depended upon the situation and what the HMO would approve. Once those therapies were incorporated into her schooling, I believe now that they're all a couple of times a week, at school.
I'm responding to you're not knowing what to expect. Get used to it.
Sometimes it's dictated to you, sometimes you'll feel a need to fight for more. You already know this; I want to encourage you to fight for what you think Payton needs. Also, the EI should be teaching you things - approaches - that you can use when you play with her. I began to see our entire life as one therapy session for a while, but it gets better after a while.
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03-14-2006 02:03 PM
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Hi there,

I also wonder if Livi is getting the appropriate amount of therapy because it is basically client/parent motivated. In other words, I have to tell them when I want more--is that nuts or what? I have no idea what she should get as it seems all the kids here have different amounts of therapy.

Livi started EI from Birth to 3 at age 6 weeks. She is now 5 months and gets a teacher weekly, PT and oT every other week and Next month I asked for her to have PT and OT weekly. Livi is also going to see a speech therapist (not through EI) next month because she is going to be in a research study which gives her a free evaluation and planning for her participation. All she has to do is coo and eat for the study--a nice deal I believe.

Anyway thanks for posting this--I too am very interested in what the group said.


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