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03-15-2006 02:31 PM

Jenna   Senior Member Location: Texas Registered: Feb 2006 Posts: 587 Last visit: 03-24-2006

Ok, so Nate's been potty training for over two months now and he refuses to do #2 on the potty. He wears underpants all day except for nap and bedtime. So he waits until then to take care of his bowel movement. I've done the reward system, taken away computer use until he does it. It worked at first, but now he just doesn't care for whatever I try to reward him with (candy, park, walk, tv, you name it). Eeerrrrr... what can I do to encourage him to take care of his business on the potty? HELP! ** ** Thanks! __________________ ~Jenna Proud mamma to these beauts!!! DOB: Nate 7-26-03 ~&~ Lana 4-21-05 **** ****   "Just when you think you have learned what you need to know in life, someone truly special comes into it and shows just how much more there is."

03-15-2006 02:43 PM

always_chaos   Senior Member Location: Detroit Metro, MI Registered: Dec 2005 Posts: 479 Last visit: 03-24-2006

My four year old had the same difficulty when he was being potty trained. It may sound strange but he was horrified of flushing No 2# down the stool. It took quite a bit of discussion and a bit of time to get the goal accomplished. I do remember he would leave the bathroom in the beginning and someone else would flush for him so that he was not involved in this process. We also kept a close watch on him so that he would not sneak off and do his duty. __________________ Visit Our Blog: Always Chaos At Our House

03-15-2006 02:45 PM

DanielsMommy   Super Member Location: Rhode Island Registered: Sep 2005 Posts: 1403 Last visit: 03-24-2006

When you find the answer, please let me in on the secret. Elayna has been fully trained for almost a year....with one exception....SHE REFUSES TO POOP IN THE TOILET. She tells you "Mommy, I have to go poop....get me a diaper". I have been through it all.... 1. We refused and told her we were all out of diapers. She held it for 5 days and needed a suppository. 2. Offered her all rewards under the sun...I would have bought her a new car..but she doesn't drive yet!! LOL.. 3. Finally, under the advice of our Ped..we have agreed it is a behavioral thing and not a toilet training thing. She hasn't had an accident in months...she stays dry all night and for naps...and she CAN tell you when she has to poop..she just refuses to put it in the toilet. She just told me to make sure I make her go in the bathroom..even if it's with a diaper on...and eventually..she'll sit on the toilet and go. She has had a few successes along the way..but none last more than a few days until she asks for that diaper again. It's like a cruch for her or something. I can't figure it out for the life of me. My advice, don't push him at all....when he's ready..he'll go. Sometimes it is easier than you think. Elayna trained quite easily...except for this issue that still lingers. We honestly are approaching a year. I started training her well before Daniel was born...and he will be a year in June. Good luck!!!! __________________ Lisa Mommy to Elayna 10-1-02 and Daniel Ds 6-7-05 Always have hope....Without rain, there can be no rainbows.

03-15-2006 03:01 PM

Jenna   Senior Member Location: Texas Registered: Feb 2006 Posts: 587 Last visit: 03-24-2006

always_chaos - when I was reading your post it was as if I was reading about myself. I remember those days and refusing to flush the toilet because I thought it would suck me in and I'd end up in the sewer or somewhere. One time one of my step dads came home and severely punished my brother and sister for them not flushing the massive #2, they wouldn't claim it so he punished them both. He didn't think I was capable of creating such a thing. We still laugh about it today. ROFL. Nate has a little potty, but when he's done he likes to flush the big one. Lisa - I think I'd die if it takes that long. Today I made him cry b/c I said I was disappointed in him for not using the potty.. . I fixed it and told him sorry and that he can poop in the diaper, but err... come on already. quote: don't push him at all....when he's ready..he'll go. Wow, I thought by now he would be going already. I will let him be and just buy some more diapers.... err. He did so well potty training for #1, I thought #2 would be a breeze. Thanks Ladies! __________________ ~Jenna Proud mamma to these beauts!!! DOB: Nate 7-26-03 ~&~ Lana 4-21-05 **** ****   "Just when you think you have learned what you need to know in life, someone truly special comes into it and shows just how much more there is."

03-15-2006 03:15 PM

friederike   Member Location: Germany, Wuppertal Registered: Dec 2005 Posts: 87 Last visit: 03-24-2006

Agnes was almost 3 when she still asked for a diaper to poop. She would then stand in the livingroom holding on to the table and..... . She tried to make sure that everybody was there- dog included. One night she was siting in her bath when she asked for a diaper and we told her, as she was wet, the diaper would not hold. She went to the toilet and that was it. We never used a diaper for her ever again. Cecilie has been dry during the day since Xmas, but she started at least a year before making her poop on her little potty. __________________ Friederike, Gerald and Agnes *1993, Josephine *1995 and Cecilie* 25.2.2003 DS

03-15-2006 03:20 PM
Jenna   Senior Member Location: Texas Registered: Feb 2006 Posts: 587 Last visit: 03-24-2006	A YEAR!!! My poor little boy, I do need to be more patient with him. __________________ ~Jenna Proud mamma to these beauts!!! DOB: Nate 7-26-03 ~&~ Lana 4-21-05 **** ****   "Just when you think you have learned what you need to know in life, someone truly special comes into it and shows just how much more there is."

03-16-2006 10:05 AM
friederike   Member Location: Germany, Wuppertal Registered: Dec 2005 Posts: 87 Last visit: 03-24-2006	No, it won´t last this long. Keep trying. __________________ Friederike, Gerald and Agnes *1993, Josephine *1995 and Cecilie* 25.2.2003 DS

03-16-2006 10:01 PM

DanielsMommy   Super Member Location: Rhode Island Registered: Sep 2005 Posts: 1403 Last visit: 03-24-2006

Jenna, It really is the strangest things with my daughter. She REFUSES to give up the diaper. She totally knows when she has to go...because she asks for the diaper. When we go out she never has accidents, stays dry all the time....she just wants that diaper when it's time for poop. When I tell you even my ped is stumped for answers. She is a fantastic ped and loves both my children. She is amazed at the amount of determination in Elayna. She says it is really commom for kids to have a fear of putting it in the toilet...but she has never seen anyone go to the extents as Elayna. One story that sums up my little girl...I have posted this before..but I think it was before you joined. We thought we had a breakthrough....she said she would try and go on the toilet. So I was reading her books, talking...the whole nine yards...my husband comes in and tells her that if she put her poop in the toilet...we would take her to Benny's (local store with a big toy dept) and get her whatever she wanted. So...finally...she does it....We give her all applause...my husband takes her to the store where she tries to put EVERYTHING in the carriage, she said "Daddy, you said I could get anything"...so he explained that she could get 1 thing and so they got it and came home. Later that night....about 2am she calls out from her room. "Daddy, I have to go poop". My husband runs in and says "What a great job Elayna...let's go in the bathroom". She replies "No Daddy, I already got everthing I wanted from Benny's ....now go get me a diaper". Honestly..since that night....she hasn't put a poop in the toilet. Can you figure this kid out????? __________________ Lisa Mommy to Elayna 10-1-02 and Daniel Ds 6-7-05 Always have hope....Without rain, there can be no rainbows.

03-17-2006 04:58 PM

Jenna   Senior Member Location: Texas Registered: Feb 2006 Posts: 587 Last visit: 03-24-2006

Friederike - Thanks, I'm hoping it won't take that long. Lisa - that sounds just like Nate. I went to host a DT party one night after days of attempting to get him to "go". While I was out he did #2 on the potty for Dadda and was so excited about it. When I got home he ran to the door with his surprise that we promised him in his hand. It's this pill that you put in water and then it expands to a big sheet with Nemo on it. We thought he was going to be doing it from then on, but that didn't happen. A few days later I offered him M&M's as the reward so he did it again. Mind you both times it was only a little pepple, but he did it. Then a few weeks later I took his computer time away and told him "when you poopoo on the pot you can play on the computer again". We had a horrible day with him whining for the computer all day until 4 o'clock he said "come momma, naenae (his nickname) go poopoo on the pot (as he )". I have never seen him work so hard in his life. He pushed and pushed until finally he says "I DID IT!, now PUTER MOMMA (as he again)". He rushed to the computer and played for a while. I thought since he loves the computer so much that that would be a great daily reward for him. Ahhh.. now he'd rather give up his computer time than use the pot for #2. It's all good, I'm giving him his space and hoping for the best. At least he's awesome with #1. __________________ ~Jenna Proud mamma to these beauts!!! DOB: Nate 7-26-03 ~&~ Lana 4-21-05 **** ****   "Just when you think you have learned what you need to know in life, someone truly special comes into it and shows just how much more there is."

03-17-2006 07:06 PM

DanielsMommy   Super Member Location: Rhode Island Registered: Sep 2005 Posts: 1403 Last visit: 03-24-2006

Jenna, that is all you can do...give him space. That is the advice my ped has given me after many many attempts at trying to get her to go. I have tried everything. For months I didn't say anything...just gave her the diaper...and you know what....she just keeps taking the diaper and goes on her merry way. She couldn't care less about going in the toilet. No matter how much space I give her, no matter what reward......she is NOT going in the toilet. I suspect that going to preschool and really wanting to a big girl will finally be what gets her to go. I imagine at some point...she'll give in...until then...I wait patiently with diaper in hand!! LOL... __________________ Lisa Mommy to Elayna 10-1-02 and Daniel Ds 6-7-05 Always have hope....Without rain, there can be no rainbows.

03-20-2006 11:31 AM

lilpayton   Senior Member Location: Bristow, Virginia Registered: Jan 2006 Posts: 213 Last visit: 03-24-2006

I haven't been through this myself, but was just reading my little "Pull-Ups Success Guide" since we are starting with my son. It says: "If someone won't poop in the potty." *Your child might feel possessive about BMs - like it's "part" of themselves that goes down the toilet. Respect those feelings. Assure him there'll be more BMs to come! *Show them where BMs belong. Having a little send-off ceremony can help. So does waiting until later to flush it. Hope this helps! __________________ Bethany Mommy to Mason (1/13/04) and Payton (DS) (1/7/06) http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/paytonbalsis

03-20-2006 08:08 PM

Jenna   Senior Member Location: Texas Registered: Feb 2006 Posts: 587 Last visit: 03-24-2006

Bethany - that sounds interesting. Nate is very possesive with things. So there may be something to your post . He always asks to see his BM's before we dispose of them. I've let him see it a few times. I've heard that having the kids flush it from the diaper helps, but I haven't tried it. I've done it in front of him and he was curious. Tomorrow I will have him flush it to see if that sparks something for him. Thanks for the info! Good Luck with Mason! __________________ ~Jenna Proud mamma to these beauts!!! DOB: Nate 7-26-03 ~&~ Lana 4-21-05 **** ****   "Just when you think you have learned what you need to know in life, someone truly special comes into it and shows just how much more there is."

03-20-2006 11:51 PM

cymorales   Senior Member Location: Colorado Registered: Apr 2005 Posts: 988 Last visit: 03-23-2006

Jenna, This was so hard for me with Jayvier as well...this is going to sound funny but when we asked him why he didn't want to poop in the potty he said and I quote "...it scares me when the poopy splashed and it splashes me in the butt..." this was from my 2.5 year old...LOL He carried on with this until one day I just about lost it with him...I don't recommend this at all. I went to his room and he obviously had pooped his pants and I just sat down on the floor and cried and cried...He said ma whats the matter? I said baby I don't know how else to make you poopy on the potty. He said "well you don't ask me if I want to"...so basically I would take him every day at the same time and ask him if it were ok to go poopy and I would stay in there with him...sing songs(poopy songs) and finally after a week he got it...and he's pretty on schedule everyday at the same time...so maybe a routine poopy time would be good...??? I hope this helps! __________________ Carmen "The joys of parents are secret, and so are their griefs and fears: they cannot utter the one, nor will they utter the other." (Francis Bacon) Wife to Judah Jayvier 4/4/96, Hailey 7/8/00, Jaemen 2/20/05(DS) http://www.moralesfamilysite.com

03-22-2006 05:11 PM

mommartin   Senior Member Location: California Registered: Jun 2005 Posts: 474 Last visit: 03-23-2006

My son was the same way but for some reason my husband can talk him into doing anything, so one day my husband instead of giving him a diaper took him in the bathroom and talked him into going in the toilet. And ever since then he has been great. Now onto the girls and we will be doing good. Okay this may sound funny but I heard someone do this. They took a diaper/pullup whatever they use and had there child sit on the toilet with a diaper/pullup on and go poop. So they did that for a couple of days and then she cut a hole in the bottom area and without her child seeing it (can be difficult I know) put the diaper on and then when the child sat down to poop they went in the toilet and the mom got all excited for them. I also saw the dr. Phil show about this and he said to make a big deal about when they go poop in the pot. and when they do it they can call their favorite character (the kid on the show loved thomas the train) which was actually someone pretending to be that character (maybe a friend or grandma or grandpa could pretend to be the character that they like). I hope that helps . __________________ Katie Jerry 1/02,Bethany 8/03(cp)Faith 5/05 (ds) Helping families achieve physical and financial wellness http://behomeforkids.themomteam.com

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