| View previous topic :: View next topic |
|
|
| Author |
Message |
grantsmom1 Senior Member
Joined: 07 Apr 2010
  
Last Visit: 21 May 2013 Posts: 214 Location: Illinois
|
Posted: February 29 2012, 11:52 AM Post subject: Potty Training as an IEP Goal
|
|
|
|
Any suggestions for a response to this? "however as teachers, our focus must be primarily on his social and academic growth.". This is from Grant's kindergarten teacher in part of our discussion regarding potty training, which is a goal in his IEP. He is included in the regular classroom with a one on one aide, and they are not very willing to work on the ideas I suggest, or provide any valuable suggestions. Grrr... Thanks!
_________________ Robyn
Grant (6/06 DS), Logan (12/08 )
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
burnsun Super Member
Joined: 11 Nov 2004
       
Last Visit: 21 May 2013 Posts: 2671 Location: Missouri
|
Posted: February 29 2012, 12:12 PM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
we have goals...... for devon....... about pulling up his clothes and other things like hand washing and that...... I will look for you in a few
yes I see the point, but they get sticklers about the educational value and other things if he is not in a "life skills program"
_________________ Jane
mom to
Colin Miguel (11/19/00) DS & type 1 diabetes, ASD
Devon Richard(4/13/01) DS & Autism & Partial Complex, Seizures terology of Fallot
& Retinal detachment w partial blindness at this time
Melea Isabelle(2/13/02) DS
Adrian Elliott (7/04/03) ADD
Eliza Marisol (5/15/04) DS , ASD, pulmonary hypertension, ADHD, ODD, Autism Spectrum Disorder,
Miranda Olivia (2/1/05) DS & Partial Complex Seisure Disorder & iratractable epilepsy & Stero Typical Movement Disorder & AV Canal
Jordan Alexander(3/17/2007)ADHD
Emerson James (1/08/2009) 33 week preemie
Sarah Emmaline "Emma" Grace (2/15/2011) 35week little one with a variety of issues inc: cp & fragile x & Seizures & severe birth trauma & G-J tube, Severe reflux, and recurent pnumonia and tracheosomy and vent chugging princess since 8/24/2012!
wife to the best & greatest guy Eric
http://princessgrumpy.blogspot.com/
read about the daily adventures of Princess grumpy and her special siblings and their daily adventures
http://thegrumpyfamily.blogspot.com/
the family blog of our unique & special family
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
MatthewsMomsy Senior Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
 
Last Visit: 21 May 2013 Posts: 109
|
Posted: February 29 2012, 12:37 PM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Matthew has had a potty training goal in his IEP...BUT he was in a life skills class. Personally, I am not sure potty training is an appropriate goal for a child who is fully included. Accomodations should definitely be provided, but potty training is not part of the general curriculum.
_________________ Heather
Matthew 5-21-03 DS, PDD-NOS and Ryan 2-14-01
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Momtoseven Super Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2008
   
Last Visit: 07 May 2013 Posts: 1556 Location: Pennsylvania
|
Posted: February 29 2012, 8:54 PM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Robyn - I would think the one-on-one aide would and should be able to work on this. It is his or her job to work directly with your child. I would think they would prefer this to changing diapers.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
seansmom Senior Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
 
Last Visit: 20 May 2013 Posts: 748 Location: Alberta, Canada
|
Posted: February 29 2012, 11:15 PM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Sean's one on one aide, in a fully included class, is what actually got him started on potty training. It is easier there because there is so much routine and she is able to concentrate on him where at home I have more than one child and a house to run. She started by taking him every 90 minutes. They would sing songs while he was on the toilet and she had a neat light that made colors go all over the room and different things like that to motivate him. When she started I started at home and between the two of us it worked though it still took another 3 years to be completely trained at home. He was actually trained at school first. It was an IEP goal. It comes under an OT goal. They are just looking for excuses or none of our kids would be able to go to school. Some kids are never fully trained. Do they not deserve an education? Ask them that.
_________________  Kellie Mom to Sean 10 yrs with DS and Carly 14 yrs
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Emdad Super Moderator
Joined: 18 Jul 2000
           
Last Visit: 11 Mar 2013 Posts: 5073
|
Posted: February 29 2012, 11:25 PM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Um, the I in IEP is "individual." IMHO, one can split educational hairs whether or not it's the responsibility of the aide, but I'd sure want the support of everyone on the team. Pickin' the white outta the chickensh*t isn't going to get the job done.
Oops, did I say that out loud? Sorry.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
TheBradyBunch Super Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
  
Last Visit: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 1683 Location: Canada
|
Posted: March 01 2012, 1:07 AM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Mainstreamed or not, he has a one to one aide, and his teacher needs a lesson on inclusion. The IEP is there because your child has special needs, and it's not up to the teacher to do the potty training, it's up to his ONE TO ONE AIDE who is there and employed because HE NEEDS HER. When Noah has any sort of concept of the potty and all that, it'll be in his IEP too, and they'll have to follow it.
_________________ Mom to: Nicholas (May/02), Nathan (April/04), Charlene (June/06), Noah (DS, ASD) (May/07), Jesse Lynn (July/08 ), Tessa (Apr/10), Kaitlyn (Jun/12)
"Sometimes the things we can't change end up changing us"
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
grantsmom1 Senior Member
Joined: 07 Apr 2010
  
Last Visit: 21 May 2013 Posts: 214 Location: Illinois
|
Posted: March 01 2012, 9:43 PM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Thanks everybody, I really appreciate your responses. I pushed back, and have talked to the school today. It sounds like they will try to make some adjustments to move forward. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
_________________ Robyn
Grant (6/06 DS), Logan (12/08 )
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
JanetG Super Member
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
    
Last Visit: 20 May 2013 Posts: 1583 Location: KC Metro
|
Posted: March 06 2012, 9:08 AM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
| Quote: |
| "however as teachers, our focus must be primarily on his social and academic growth.". |
Not being potty trained GREATLY impacts their social and academic growth. There is NO reason why they don't work on potty training, as indicated in your IEP. Is your goal specific enough?
_________________ Janet (47)
Joshua (angel) '85 (1 day old)
Sarah-age 25
Jaret-age 8
Jacey-born 2/22/08 (dx w/ Ds 9/10/07)
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
grantsmom1 Senior Member
Joined: 07 Apr 2010
  
Last Visit: 21 May 2013 Posts: 214 Location: Illinois
|
Posted: March 08 2012, 1:33 PM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Janet, I will definitely plan to make his goal more specific at his upcoming IEP meeting. Thanks for the idea. I did point out the longer it is before he is trained, the longer it takes away from the classroom activities. They are working with him now, so we will see how it goes!
_________________ Robyn
Grant (6/06 DS), Logan (12/08 )
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Will Senior Member
Joined: 24 Oct 2008
   
Last Visit: 20 May 2013 Posts: 138
|
Posted: June 06 2012, 8:16 PM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
I suggest becoming a broken record.
"He needs to be potty trained. We're doing it at home, but we need it to be consistent."
"Education is supposed to be about social and academic goals."
"And skills required for that. He needs to be potty trained. We're doing it at home, but we need it to be consistent."
"But we have a different focus. This is a school."
"I understand that this is a school, but he needs to be potty trained. We're putting it in the IEP."
"I don't think that would be appropriate."
"Perhaps not, but whatever we would like to think, he still needs to be potty trained. We'll keep doing it at home, and it has to happen here too."
That is, no particular emotion, no attempt to convince the unconvinceable, just: this is the way it has to be.
(I exaggerated somewhat. Initially, I'd say, make the case. Be sure your case is reasonable -- is it their job? Do they have the personnel to help with that? But then, if they keep giving static: broken record.)
_________________ Father of Liam (DS, '08 ) and Charles ('10).
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
McKaylasmom Senior Member
Joined: 10 Aug 2008
   
Last Visit: 13 May 2013 Posts: 382 Location: El Paso Tx
|
Posted: June 14 2012, 7:07 PM Post subject:
|
|
|
|
Potty training was one of the goals on Kaylas IEP last year. It wasn't reached but it is still something they were working on with her. They would take her into the bathroom with other kids and have her sit on the potty. I just wished she would show some desire of wanting to use the potty
_________________ Windy
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|